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Bleach latest chapter discussion [επιτρέπονται spoilers]
#4411
Posted 12 January 2012 - 18:42
Eλπίζω να βγει κι ο Aizenούκος σου από την φυλακή, Black Kaiser dear, και να τον ξαναδούμε να παλεύει, ενταντίων του βασιλιά αυτήν την φορά. Θα μου άρεζε πάρα πολύ αυτή η "έκπληξη" που μπορεί να μην είναι και τόσο έκπληξη αλλά θα είναι απλώς απίθανο να το δούμε. Κι αν κι όταν αυτό γίνει θα μπορέσεις να έρθεις εδώ εσύ Kaiser και να μοιραστείς την χαρά σου μαζί μας.
Επίσης, δε νομίζω ότι ο Ιchigo να άλλαξε την SS, απλώς -κι εφόσον- αποκαλύφθηκε η αλήθεια δεν υπήρχε λόγος να μην τους επαναφέρουν στην παλιά τους θέση. Δεν έκαναν τίποτα απ'όλα αυτά που τους κατηγόρησαν, άρα δεν υπάρχει κανένα πρόβλημα. Ακόμα και oι κάτοικοι της SS δεν είναι τόσο χτυπημένοι.
#4412
Posted 18 January 2012 - 23:51
Κατά τη διάρκεια των τριών εβδομάδων, κάθε τεύχος του Shounen Jump θα έχει κάποιες (5) σελίδες αφιερωμένες σε πρώιμα σκίτσα του manga, συνεντεύξεις του Kubo και άλλα. Δεν ήθελα να το βάλω σε ξεχωριστό thread, μιας και οι πληροφορίες σχετίζονται με τη ροή του manga από δω και πέρα.
Και αρχίζουμε με τις σελίδες αυτής της εβδομάδας.
The first page is kind of redundant, ie. repeating the same info over and over, so I left out most of it.
A new arc begins with WSJ #11!
Bleach
Repeat & Reboot Vol 1. Birth
Investigating the secrets of Bleach’s new arc for three consecutive weeks!!
The story up until now, as well as plans for the new arc, all straight from Kubo-sensei!!
The “two people” hidden by the tear revealed for the first time!! To find out their true identity, please continue reading!!!
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The Gotei 13 Reborn
What happened during those missing 17 months!!?
Captain of the First Division – Yamamoto Genryuusai Shigekuni
A softer Captain Commander Yamamoto
Commander of the entire Gotei 13. Lost his arm due to a sacrificial kido… But did he also change inside!?
Tite Interview
Q: What about Genryuusai’s left arm?
Kubo: He only has his right arm now.
Q: Is that all that’s changed?
Kubo: I think Genryuusai wouldn’t change much from his current state if he trained. Wouldn’t it be strange for someone who’s lived for over two thousand years to change over a period of 17 months? However, he does have unseen, inner changes.
Captain of the Second Division – Soi Fon
Following the deadly battles with Aizen and the Espadas, Soi Fon changed her hair during the 17 month period. Perhaps because the Second Division prizes quickness, her hair is now shorter.
Losing her left hand during the battle with Barragan.
The Second Division Captain, whose duty is assassination, lost her left hand during the battles at Karakura town. Thanks to the top healing skills of the Gotei, it has now been restored.
Tite Interview
Q: What happened to the hand lost to “aging?”
Kubo: Soi Fon’s left hand has been healed.
Q: What about her change in appearance?
Kubo: Her hair has changed a little. Speaking of changes, I also wanted to change Yoruichi, but her current look really suits her, so it’s difficult for me.
Captain of the Third Division – Otoribashi Rojuro
Rojuro has returned to his same position from a hundred years ago. Same as TBTP, his look is modeled on that of a western gentleman. His hair has also become more refined.
The lieutenant of the Third Division is…
Kira remains the lieutenant of the Third Division. How well does he complement his new captain!?
Tite Interview
Q: Rojuro has rejoined the Gotei 13.
Kubo: Rojuro and Izuru suit each other very well, so I decided to put Rojuro into the Third Division. I should add that Shinji returned to the Fifth Division, and Kensei returned to the Ninth.
Captain of the Fourth Division – Unohana Retsu
Unohana, who will finally turn her zanpakuto against the enemy and enter battle.
The Captain of the Fourth Division, who has the special duty of healing and is the most senior captain next to the Captain Commander, will finally enter battle, and release her reiatsu & zanpakuto in the new arc.
Tite Interview
Q: Unohana will finally fight?
Kubo: In the next arc, I’ve decided that Unohana will enter the battlefiled. Her zanpakuto’s true form will also be revealed. I can also add that when Unohana fights, she unravels her large braid.
Next time: Kubo-sensei describes the new arc’s battlefield!! Also, the Gotei 13 Reborn <Fifth Division – Ninth Division>
Yup, I saw that! The usual spoiler provider posted - 下一篇章98会让卯之花在战斗中出场。同时会展现花姐姐的斩魄刀的真正姿态。另外透露的是花姐姐在战斗的时 候会把她的那个大辫子解开~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Next arc, Kubo will let Unohana enter the battle. At the same time, he will reveal the true form of her zan. It also reveals that when she goes into battle, Unohana unravels her large braid."
Ε, αυτό είναι ενδιαφέρον για την Unohana. Κι αν χρειαστεί να παλέψει κι εκείνη, οι νέοι εχθροί θα είναι πάνω από τα σύννεφα στη δύναμη.
Okay, here's the last bit.
Bleach Pre-Publication Planning Journal
Kurosaki Ichigo and Kuchiki Rukia before publication!!
Before publication, Kubo-sensei drew Ichigo and Rukia in his journal. Looking back, Sensei says Ichigo with glasses looked like a “young intellectual.” Along with a scythe-wielding Rukia, they are truly different from the characters as they are today!!
Secret Theme – Agent of the Shinigami and Soul Society Arcs
The volume on Rukia
With the status of a Substitute Shinigami, stepping into battles to protect the living world!!
In order to protect his family, friends, and Karakura town, Ichigo became a shinigami. In Rukia’s place, he fought and confronted the hollow responsible for his mother’s death. One day, emissaries from another world appeared --------
Tite comment
Each arc has its own theme. The Soul Society arc was about saving Rukia. The Arrancar arc was about saving Orihime. The Lost Agent arc was connected to Chad. The new arc will be about…
Title is… “Snipe”
Tite comment
The original advertisement was titled “Snipe.” But I decided that it didn’t feel right, so I changed it.
Tite Idea Note
Sensei’s secret notes contain sketches of some familiar characters. This is one portion. They all look different from how they are now. We can guess that during the planning stages, Sensei had already drawn out his main characters.
Rescue Rukia from execution!!
Because she gave shinigami powers to Ichigo, Rukia was sentenced to death. In order to save his own savior, Ichigo and friends went to Soul Society. Ichigo fought several deadly battles with the shinigami protecting Seireitei, and succeeded in saving Rukia. At this time, Aizen’s deception was revealed…
Secret Theme – Arrancar Arc
The volume on Orihime
A new power enters the stage, shinigami enter full-on battle!!
After returning to the living world from Soul Society, Ichigo took up the duties of substitute shinigami again. At this time, before him appeared two new powers, the Vizards and the Arrancar. The shinigami begin battling against the Arrancar under Aizen’s leadership…
Both current and previous members of the Gotei 13 fight against the traitor shinigami and the hollows under their command!!
The Idea Note
Hirako, whose character was planned out pre-publication, finally enters the scene!!
Hirako was drawn on the very first color spread in the first chapter.
Tite comment
I originally wanted to draw stories about Ichigo’s classmates, so I drew Hirako as one.
Gradually disappearing, Rukia’s existence…
Secret Theme – The Lost Agent Arc
The volume on Sado
Time passes, although 17 months later all is well…
Aizen created disorder never seen before. In order to defeat him, Ichigo lost his shinigami powers. He got the normal student life that he’d hoped for, but also became restless as he couldn’t protect his friends. At this time, a group of people with mysterious powers appeared. The fullbringers began a battle against Ichigo and the other shinigami at Karakura town.
Receiving new powers, Ichigo continues his development…
Ichigo’s new look from “The Lost Agent Arc!!”
Before the Lost Agent Arc began, Kubo-sensei sent this sketch of Ichigo 17 months later to his editor. The armor around his arms and neck represent the mixture of his shinigami and fullbring powers. How will he continue to change in the new arc!?
Από εδώ.
#4413
Posted 19 January 2012 - 18:56
#4414
Posted 19 January 2012 - 19:02
#4415
Posted 20 January 2012 - 02:43
Q: What about Genryuusai’s left arm?
Kubo: He only has his right arm now.
Right...The Second Division Captain, whose duty is assassination, lost her left hand during the battles at Karakura town. Thanks to the top healing skills of the Gotei, it has now been restored.
Tite Interview
Q: What happened to the hand lost to “aging?”
Kubo: Soi Fon’s left hand has been healed
(Αντι να κανει κανα hell arc αντι ταινιας και να συνδεσει τπτ Aizen με hell η/και τη μανα του ichigo) παω στοιχημα οτι κατι ξεμπαρκο θα κανει παλι με τιποτε πουθεναδες που θα ξεπεταχτουν απο το μηδεν και τον ichigo transformation 15...
Χειροτερο troll απο τον Kubo δεν εχω ξαναδει.
Μακαρι να διαψευστω.
#4416
Posted 20 January 2012 - 02:56
#4417
Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:51
Προκαταβολικα συγνωμη αν γινομαι εριστικος...
Right...
(Αντι να κανει κανα hell arc αντι ταινιας και να συνδεσει τπτ Aizen με hell η/και τη μανα του ichigo) παω στοιχημα οτι κατι ξεμπαρκο θα κανει παλι με τιποτε πουθεναδες που θα ξεπεταχτουν απο το μηδεν και τον ichigo transformation 15...
Χειροτερο troll απο τον Kubo δεν εχω ξαναδει.
Μακαρι να διαψευστω.
ΟΚ, ξέρεις για ποιο πράγμα μιλάς τώρα;

Έβαλες τα quotes που μιλάνε για το χέρι της Soi Fon που θεραπεύτηκε και το χέρι του παππού που πάει μόνιμα... και μιλάς για Aizen, συνδυασμός hell και Masaki... Άσχετο.
Όχι σοβαρά, τί λες;
#4418
Posted 20 January 2012 - 10:29

#4419
Posted 20 January 2012 - 11:20
#4420
Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:13
@ mjj: Εάν πιστεύεις ότι ένα post είναι παρατραβηγμένο, καλύτερα να κάνεις report.
Συνεχίστε.
#4421
Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:26

#4422
Posted 20 January 2012 - 13:29
Δεν κατάλαβα ποιος είναι ο ουσιαστικός λόγος για να έχει ξανά χέρι η Soi Fon κι όχι ο αρχηγός των shinigami....:S
μαλλον γιατι την soi fon θα την ξαναδουμε να πολεμαει ενω αυτον οχι...
#4423
Posted 20 January 2012 - 13:55
Kubo: I think Genryuusai wouldn’t change much from his current state if he trained. Wouldn’t it be strange for someone who’s lived for over two thousand years to change over a period of 17 months? However, he does have unseen, inner changes.

#4424
Posted 20 January 2012 - 15:13
θελω να δω το νεο αρκ ...και πως θα εμφανιστει νεος κακος...και ειδικα τι θα θελει δις ταιμ

#4425
Posted 20 January 2012 - 17:12
ΟΚ, ξέρεις για ποιο πράγμα μιλάς τώρα;
Έβαλες τα quotes που μιλάνε για το χέρι της Soi Fon που θεραπεύτηκε και το χέρι του παππού που πάει μόνιμα... και μιλάς για Aizen, συνδυασμός hell και Masaki... Άσχετο.
Όχι σοβαρά, τί λες;
Καλα ντε μη βαρας!!

Εχασαν και οι δυο τα χερια τους, σωστα? Γιατι ο παπους να παραμεινει κουλος και να γιατρεψαν μονο τη Soi Fon? Εστω βρε παιδι μου γιαυτο μπορει να βρει εναν λογο η να πει επειδη το εκανε sacrifice οτι δεν γινοταν να του το "επιστρεψουνε".
Τωρα οσο για τα αλλα που ειπα (και παρακαλω διορθωσε με αν εχω "χασει καποιο επισοδειο") - για να το ξεκαθαρισω ειναι μονο απο προσωπικη σκοπια και ενοουσα τα εξης:
1) Πιστευω οτι πρεπει να ασχοληθει με το παρελθον του Ichigo και να αφησει τα arcs με τυπους που εμφανιζονται απο το πουθενα και χωρις καποιον ιδιεταιρο σκοπο (που ηταν ολοι αυτοι στα προηγουμενα arcs - πως ειχαν τοση δυναμη για να 1-shotaroun Ishida που τις επαιζε με Espada κτλπ).
2) Ο θανατος της Masaki μου φαινεται πολυ fishy, αν σκεφτεις οτι τα χε με τον Ishin. Εστω ομως οτι πεθανε απο ενα απλο hollow, και ο Aizen δεν ειχε να κανει τιποτε με αυτο. Μαζι με το 3:
3) Εγω εχω κολλησει σε εκεινη τη φραση του Aizen που διακοπηκε απο τον Ishin που ηταν περιπου ετσι:
Aizen: Blah blah i always watched you, even before you were born blah blah blah
Ichigo: WTF WHY?!?
Aizen: Because... Ichigo... you are a shinigami and a.....
Ishin: That's enough Aizen, you talk you much kk?
Human θα ελεγε ο Aizen?
Επισης, (δεν ξερω αν χανω κατι παλι) αλλα το hollow (οχι απλα το mask) του Ichigo ειναι ιδιεταιρο και "imbalanced" (προφανως) - εχει εξηγηθει πληρως πως το εχει?
4) Οσο για το Hell chapter απλα το θεωρω πολυ καλο υλικο για arc και νεο "universe" χωρις να βαζει κατι "εξωπραγματικο" για το Bleach. Εχουμε SS - Hueco Mondo, Spirit King Realm - πιστευω θα κολλουσε το Hell.
PS: Και επειδη αγαπαω Aizen (παρολο που εγινε "πεταλουδας" στο τελος) κολλαει παντου!! (Και πρεπει να εχει και ενα decent plan αν κανει comeback!)
Edited by RestInPieces, 20 January 2012 - 17:29.